Anti-Surrogate Lobbyist—Was My Birth Moral?
As an open-minded, 24-year-old graduate of Harvard, Julie became a conservative after discovering Dennis Prager's radio show. After reaching out to Dennis to express her appreciation for his work, a friendship was born that became a mentorship. Dennis then invited her as a guest on his radio show. The following summer, Julie appeared as a weekly on-air contributor to his nationally syndicated radio program. At the age of 21, Julie guest-hosted three-hour broadcasts for both The Dennis Prager Show and The Mike Gallagher Show, becoming the youngest person to solo substitute host on a national program. On "Timeless", Julie explores her views on life, politics, and current events.
Tuesday, December 12, 2023
Julie was born of a surrogate mother and counts it as a blessing to have a life through the miracle of modern science. She welcomes Jennifer Lahl, the founder and president of The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network and the co-founder of Stop Surrogacy Now, to have a lively debate on surrogacy.
2:20 -- Why did Julie want to do this interview?
7:15 -- Jennifer takes issue with the way Julie's parents explained her surrogacy to her (Julie responds at 10:47)
13:25 -- Jennifer argues that payment for pregnancy is coercive
15:47 -- Julie summarizes Jennifer's arguments against surrogacy: 1) Surrogacy is more risky than regular pregnancies 2) Payment for pregnancy is coercive
18:22 -- Julie asks: What is the data--how many surrogates die/get significantly harmed from carrying a child?
23:07 --- Julie makes comparison to costs/benefits of driving a car
32:38 -- Jennifer asks Julie: What would your position on surrogacy be if your surrogate mother and you died?
35:04 -- Jennifer says it's "interesting" that Julie doesn't want to provide some details about her surrogacy -- Jennfier argues that women are "erased"
36:05 -- Julie asks Jennifer: If a surrogate walks away with some emotional damage (like postpartum depression), do you think that that is enough to say that surrogacy should not have happened/ the child should not have been born?
38:50 --- Jennifer argues that it is economically unjust to allow lower income women to deliver babies for wealthy families
40:28 -- Julie and Jennifer exchange about data
42:40 --- Julie asks: Do you think it's coercive when people are paid to do other physical jobs that are potentially dangerous (i.e. construction work)? Jennifer argues pregnancy is not a job.
49:25 -- Julie asks: If your argument against surrogacy is that you don't think doctors should be doing "medically unnecessary" things to people, are you against plastic surgery?
53:40 -- Julie and Jennifer discuss cases where biological parents want their surrogate to get an abortion. Is that "surrogate's body, her choice" or "parent's contract, their choice"?
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